The center left needs to win this war so we can continue with normalcy. Just as the right needs to drive out far right social, and populist views from their party. At this point which ever party is the first to stabilize and come to the center I will align with. Until then I am out.
At this point fiscally progressive views are so far from my best interests I cannot vote for them.
Speak for yourself old man
Doing business in Europe and making money there is a real challenge, I am worried our policies will get there.
1. Workers can't work more than 3X hour work weeks.
2. Workers not allowed to answer work emails after work hours
3. 90 lead period to fire employees
4. Overly complicated tax codes that slow down work
5. Overly taxed corporations that crush small businesses and prevent innovation and disruptive technologies from being developed
6. A party to focused on identity politics leading
7. Bernie's/ "democratic socialists" rejection of globalism and trade deals and push of labor unions, allowing us to get caught keeping dying industry afloat. (see the oakland shipping docks)
8. Unscalable ideas of how how we should provide healthcare
Etc....
Marquee,
Will your obsession with Hillary ever end? You are like a spurned, vindictive former lover. We have moved on, we have bigger fish to fry.
Dude, we just effin' elected Trump. This administration is a complete disaster, yet close to 40% of the country and more than half of white America is solidly behind it. It's just plain true that the US is considerably more conservative and individualistic than most Euro countries and Canada. Hell, we can't even come close to getting a single payer health care system when the rest of the first world all have some form of that, and we're paying through the nose for not having it. But you say socialized anything in the US, and it ain't going nowhere.
If you don't believe me, just look at history of our presidential elections. In 1968, the Dems had a similarly contentious primary season with a lot of progressives feeling left out when they chose Humphrey at the convention. They retaliated and got a truly progressive candidate in 1972 in McGovern, and McGovern was slaughtered. After winning only 1 of the next 4 (and that only because of Ford's pardoning Nixon), the moderate wing of the party got together and started pushing moderates like Bubba. Since then, the Dems have run more centrist candidates and have won 4 of the last 7 and have won the popular vote in 2 others. Only Kerry, who was a pretty weak candidate, lost both the EC and the popular vote. So go ahead and nominate Bernie, Warren or Brown, but I don't think any of those 3 could beat an embattled and weakened Trump. The hardcore Left just isn't populous enough to win nationwide elections here at this time. It goes in cycles. So it may be different 30-40 years down the road. But we're up against a strong social backlash currently as well as being in a pretty conservative country. I'm not making value judgments as to who is more morally right. I'm just observing where we appear to be now and making observations based on recent American history.
I think this breaks down with the Obama victory-he was fairly centrist and in line with recent history econmiically, but that isn't why he won, and IMO he won because the perception about him was the opposite. Bernie will not be a pragmatic option in the forseeable future in terms of either his stated policies or his electability (and I say this as someone who likes him), but the fact that he was able to fill the need for a challenger to Hillary confirmed what people had hoped for in 2008. I think the most pragmatic option was someone who could build off Obamas run (Hillary tried to do that, but her history hurt the "believably" part).
Dude, we just effin' elected Trump. This administration is a complete disaster, yet close to 40% of the country and more than half of white America is solidly behind it.
Let me know when any member of Hillary's campaign staff, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, or any DNC staffers deny the allegations. I'm not super interested in Hillary shills layman, context free interpretation of the document. I mean, surely Lincoln Chafee was making DNC staff decisions before the primary IN PREPARATION for the general election.https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/el...-clinton-dnc-deal-n817411?cid=sm_npd_nn_fb_ma
However, the memo also made clear that the arrangement pertained to only the general election, not the primary season, and it left open the possibility that it would sign similar agreements with other candidates.
"Nothing in this agreement shall be construed to violate the DNC's obligation of impartiality and neutrality through the Nominating process. All activities performed under this agreement will be focused exclusively on preparations for the General Election and not the Democratic Primary," the memo states.
"Further we understand you may enter into similar agreements with other candidates," it continues.
Let me know when any member of Hillary's campaign staff, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, or any DNC staffers deny the allegations. I'm not super interested in Hillary shills layman, context free interpretation of the document.
"lets", meaning me and you? You wouldn't rather rely on the experience of the people actually involved? Ok. You do whatevers most convenient for you. I'll take Donna Brazile's, Elizabeth Warrens, and Tulsi Gabbards word for it.Yes, lets not actually get to the detail of what the document in question actually said. That's in no way relevant when I need to shill Bernie's BS.
I read the letter, Jesus Christ, it's 1.5 pages. I'm apparently just not as naive as you. But sure, let me hear that Martin O'Malley had the same access and control over the DNC a year before the convention, and I might be convinced. Otherwise i'll take the word of the former chair of the DNC. Congrats on your ability to read though, that must be very exciting for you.Or you could read the actual letter itself in the NBC news link I just provided. You are such a clown.
Let me know when any member of Hillary's campaign staff, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, or any DNC staffers deny the allegations. I'm not super interested in Hillary shills layman, context free interpretation of the document. I mean, surely Lincoln Chafee was making DNC staff decisions before the primary IN PREPARATION for the general election.
i'll take the word of the former chair of the DNC.